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It’s a GREAT DAY at Hansen Pole Buildings!!

It’s a GREAT DAY at Hansen Pole Buildings!!

As Technical Director at Hansen Pole Buildings since our founding in 2002, it has always been my personal view we have no competitors, only others who try in vain to match up to what we deliver. We have clients, not customers. Customers buy a product with little or no expectation of receiving more than just a product (think of purchasing just a 2×6 at a lumberyard or big box store). Clients are relationship based, where they come to us because they have a problem or challenge and believe a new post-frame building may very well be their solution. It is then up to us to provide “The Ultimate Post-Frame Building Experience™” to help our clients to best reach their goals.

Loyal followers and readers of my approaching 3000 online articles know I never purposefully negatively call out another provider by name, who is attempting to compete with us. I find it both distasteful and unethical.

From Google AI Overview:

“Based upon the provided search results, it’s not clear whether the “Pole Barn Guru” (Mike at Hansen Pole Buildings) explicitly calls out competitors by name in a negative or critical way. However, there is some evidence that suggests that he does refer to competitors in his writing and acknowledges their presence in the industry:

Acknowledgement of Competitors: The Pole Barn Guru mentions that his blog has followers from competing companies who looks for “secrets” in his posts.

Discussion of competitor’s work: He has written about a situation involving “an oops from a competitor’s architect”, without specifically naming the competitor.

Self-disclosure: He states that his ability to attract customers is due to using appropriate self-disclosure, suggesting he discusses both positive and negative aspects of the industry.

Addressing issues related to non-Hansen buildings: The blog provides practical answers to condensation and insulation problems even for people who have structures not provided by Hansen.

While these instances show the Pole Barn Guru is aware and interacts with the competitive landscape, there’s no direct evidence provided in the search results that he directly and negatively names specific competitors. His focus seems to be more on sharing information and providing value to readers, even those who haven’t purchased from his company.”

My note: Recently a to-be unnamed by me company (referenced only as xxx Pole Barns to follow) put up some errant information on their website (and Instagram) including:

”Choosing the right pole barn kit can make or break your project. With so many options—xxx Pole Barns, Hansen Pole Buildings, Cheap Pole Barns, PBS (PBS Direct), and Menards—it’s essential to find the right balance of price, quality, and ease of assembly.

To make your decision easier, we’ve compared these companies in five key areas: customer service, pricing, material quality, ease of assembly, and customization.

How xxx Pole Barns Compares to the Competition:

Not all warranties are created equal. At xxx Pole Barns, we provide a Limited Lifetime Warranty with every kit at no extra charge. You can sleep well for years to come, and there are no hidden extra fees or surprise costs.

Compare this to competitors such as Hansen Pole Buildings, who require you to pay extra for a lifetime warranty with engineer-stamped plans. We do things differently. You don’t need to worry about additional fees for the protection you deserve with us. It’s part of our commitment to value and quality from the start.”

My note: Hansen Pole Buildings includes site specific engineer sealed plans AND our lifetime warranty with every building – at NO EXTRA CHARGE. Hansen Pole Buildings was first to offer a structural warranty on post-frame kits. Even better, our warranty is NOT PRORATED!

“When you choose xxx Pole Barns, you don’t just get a pole barn kit; you get superior protection and a partner invested in making sure your building lasts for generations to come.

1. Customer Service: xxx Pole Barns Puts You First

Good customer service can make or break your project. xxx Pole Barns leads the industry with a 9.0 rating, thanks to its responsive, knowledgeable support team. When you need help, many customers get assistance directly from our owner. That’s a rare level of service – and it’s built off our knowledge, expertise, and desire to make your barn the best you’ll ever own.

Hansen Pole Buildings offers solid customer support, but response times can vary. On the other hand, Cheap Pole Barns, PBS Direct, and Menards tend to have a more hands-off approach, leaving customers to figure out issues on their own.”

My note: I personally manage Hansen Pole Buildings’ Technical Support team and we provide answers to client’s challenges SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, from our team who have actually built post frame (pole) buildings since 1980.

2. Pricing: Affordable Without Cutting Corners

The price you pay is one of the most important aspects of any purchase. We get it! But finding the right price point isn’t just going with the cheapest. While competitors like Cheap Pole Barns and Menards offer low-cost kits, they often compromise on materials and customer support.

But paying more doesn’t always mean you’re getting more. Hansen Pole Buildings offers solid options, but they can be pricier. And just because you paid more doesn’t mean your barn will feel like it was worth more.”

My note: Hansen Pole Buildings does not have to offer many options, because our buildings are so much better to begin with, no other provider includes all these standard features:

Site specific, engineer sealed full-sized 24”x36” blue prints, showing every board and connection for YOUR building – no guess work required for installation. Plus engineer sealed verifying calculations to confirm structural adequacy;

All roof supporting columns are Glulaminated from 2400f msr lumber. Besides being unparalleled for strength (compare bending strengths to 145% of other’s best glulam columns, 229% of #2 SYP 6×6 and 424% of #2 Hem-Fir posts), glulams remain straight;

#1 grade FDN (Foundation Rated) UC-4B treated splash planks and mud plates;

MSR framing lumber (typically 2400f, well over twice as strong as other’s #2 grade material);

No lower grade such as #3, stud or Std&btr lumber – even in our prefabricated wood trusses;

Wall girts, roof purlins, ceiling and floor joists – all color coded per specific location on your new building;

All wood-to-wood or engineered hanger-to-wood connections are provided Simpson structural screws;

Powder coated diaphragm screws with EPDM gaskets to attach steel roofing and siding – guaranteed to outlast roofing and siding;

500+ page, fully illustrated Construction Manual, walking thru every step of your build.

“PBS Direct and Menards are budget-friendly, but their kits often require additional purchases to complete the build. What you save in upfront costs you lose in getting nickel-and-dimed to complete your build. And what’s more is the work it takes to get there – that’s extra time making additional purchases to finish your barn.

xxx Pole Barns strikes the perfect balance, earning an 8.5 rating for affordability. Customers report saving 25–40% compared to other providers, while still receiving premium materials.

Plus, our kit comes with it all. All you need is a few common tools and a good time to get to building (or calling one of our Preferred Builders to do the work for you!)”

My note: Rather than lambasting some ‘make believe’ rating system myself, I went to an outside source:

From Google AI Overview

“xxx Pole Barns mentions earning an 8.5 rating specifically for affordability. They state that customers report saving 25-40% compared to other providers while still receiving premium materials. This suggests that the 8.5 rating is based upon their internal evaluation.”

“It’s important to note that this is not a general customer satisfaction rating or a rating from a third-party review site like the Better Business Bureau (BBB) or Trustpilot. While xxx Pole Barns does have other reviews on sites like Verified Reviews, these showcase various ratings, both positive and negative.

So, while they may have an 8.5 rating related to affordability, it’s not a reflection of their overall performance or reputation across all aspects of their business.”

Negative Feedback:

“Pricing and Transparency:

Missing Price Information:
Some users found that the website didn’t show prices after they invested time specifying building details, leading to a feeling that it was a ploy to collect contact information.

“Too Good to be True” Pricing:
Some users questioned whether the quoted prices were realistic, especially for installed barns.

Website and Design Tools:

Missing Features: Some users wished for the ability to add specific features to the design, like lean-tos or scissor trusses for high pitches. Difficulty with Certain Options: Some users reported issues with removing windows or adding roll-up doors.

Other Concerns:

Basic Barn Design: Some users felt the barns offered were very basic in design.”

3. Material Quality: Built to Last
A pole barn is an investment, so materials matter. Xxx Pole Barns scores a 9.0 rating by using premium-grade lumber and Galvalume® metal siding, backed by strong warranties.

Hansen Pole Buildings also offers quality materials, but some customers report issues like warped lumber or inconsistent deliveries.”

My note: Prior to June 2024, Hansen Pole Buildings relied upon outsourced third-party vendors for lumber, trusses and deliveries (just like xxx Pole Buildings does currently) – leaving us somewhat to their mercy. To best service our clients, we since have built our own prefabricated wood truss manufacturing facility and wholesale lumber distribution center. Our tremendous volume allows us to purchase lumber mill direct by railcar loads, with these savings passed along to our clients. By providing extremely high quality and strength lumber (our 2×6 2400f msr compares quite favorably to even 2×6 #1 premium SYP’s 1300f – nearly double bending strength), we just do not hear client concerns about lumber quality.

“Cheap Pole Barns, PBS Direct, and Menards often use lower-grade materials, which may require extra maintenance. It’s easy to guess they’re less likely to last the test of time.

A xxx Pole Barn can last a generation. We’re dedicated to making sure it’s an investment that lasts.

4. Ease of Assembly: Designed for DIYers
xxx Pole Barns earns an 8.0 rating for ease of assembly. Our kits come with pre-cut materials, clear instructions, and helpful support. Even first-time builders have found them easy to put together. It really is a “DIY” project!

Hansen Pole Buildings provides good assembly guides, but some customers say the instructions could be clearer. Making a mistake when building your pole barn can be a big headache – so it helps to go with a company that provides the easiest-to-follow guides.

My note: roughly 50% of Hansen Pole Buildings’ clients do their own assembly, yet well over 90% of our technical support is performed with ‘professional’ builders, hired by our clients – who fail to look at plans or read instructions. Any time we receive a concern about assembly, not covered by our Construction Manual, we address it in our next edition. It does make sense to invest in a Hansen Pole Building.

“Cheap Pole Barns, PBS Direct, and Menards tend to offer more basic instructions, leading to confusion and extra hardware store runs. These are projects where you’ll really be on your own.

xxx Pole Barns isn’t just a place to buy your next pole barn garage or workshop. Our team is here to make you an expert in pole barns. We provide more than instructions; we’re here to support you if you have questions too!

5. Customization: Make It Your Own

xxx Pole Barns earns an 8.5 rating for customization, offering a variety of sizes, colors, doors, windows, and add-ons. Our online design tool makes it simple to customize your barn and get an instant quote. You can also use our 3D barn building tool to “see” your barn as you select options!

Hansen Pole Buildings also allows for customization, but at a higher price. Why pay more to get what you want? It’s your pole barn, customizing it to be your own should always be part of the process!”

My note: Hansen Pole Buildings offers a greater degree of customization than any other provider – clearspan roofs to 102’, clearspan floors to 53’, sidewall heights to 50’ and four stories; snow loads in excess of 400 psf (pounds per square foot); design wind speeds over 200 mph; Complex footprint shapes encompassing every alphabet letter; Any roof slope – even fractional ones. Chances are good – if you can imagine it, Hansen Pole Buildings can engineer and provide it. Somehow, I am skeptical xxx Pole Barns does not charge more for customization.

“Other companies like Cheap Pole Barns, PBS Direct, and Menards tend to offer fewer options, limiting design flexibility.”

Don’t just take my word, here is an actual BBB review of xxx Pole Barns by Jonathan P (spelling and grammar not corrected):

“RUN! Do not use this company no matter what! They do NOT stand by their word, and are ONLY responsive to the point of sale. They referred a “preferred builder: that was “one of the best in the nation”. YA RIGHT! I found out that he didn’t have an “active license”, had “expired insurance or obligations”, and his building license had been revoked!! for OVER two years!!! My delivery from them was over 30-days late, customer service was a joke, and I was stonewalled when I complained about their “preferred builder” that was “one of the best in the nation”. Find ANY other company you can, I promos you, its not worth a few bucks.”

While no provider is a perfect 10 every time, Hansen Pole Buildings is as close as you will find. For “The Ultimate Post-Frame Building Experience™” call today 1.866.200.9657.

Post Frame Purlin Blocking

Every time I begin to rest on my laurels and think I have covered all post frame (pole barn) building basics up jumps yet another one to bite me where I deserve to be bitten due to my overlooking it.

Our independent drafting team at Hansen Pole Buildings (thanks Kristie) came up with this question recently.

“As we are building our building, a question came up: what is the reason for purlin blocking? Why do we need it? What’s the important purpose for it? We will be doing this step tomorrow and actually considered skipping it (sorry, bad of us I know). Is this all explained in the CM, because I have looked and couldn’t find the why’s. I bet ALOT of people skip this step and just wanted to see why we have it.”

Well, our 500 page Construction Assembly Manual covers lots of “how tos” and very few “whys”. Biggest reason is we would hate to make it into a 700 or 800 page manual. We try to cover it all and continually add to it and improve it, so every time we get a question not covered by it, we add more information. Even though these subjects do not make a dime for Hansen Pole Buildings, we have recently expanded sections on Site Preparation and Concrete Floors. It is all part of us delivering “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™” https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2019/05/the-ultimate-post-frame-building-experience-2/

Back on task – I will preface this by letting you readers know Kristie and her husband are currently erecting their own Hansen Pole Building.

There exist two types of purlin blocking:

At endwalls (this is Kristie’s case) – Building Codes require airflow from vented soffit on gables overhangs be blocked off. Ventilation for dead attic spaces must be accomplished by either a combination of eave and ridge vents or by gable vents. Venting through end overhangs will disrupt airflow for a properly ventilated attic space.

Structurally a solid load path must be provided in any building to transfer wind shear loads from roofing to ground. Purlins overhanging an end truss and attaching with a hanger such as a Simpson H-1 do not accomplish this. Brackets will not prevent purlin rotation under extreme loads. Properly placed, endwall overhang soffit panels can be attached to these same blocks, as they serve a plethora of duties.

Purlin blocking can also be “mid-span” – when a 2×10 or larger member (girt, purlin, floor joist, etc.) is 2×10 or greater mid-span blocking is required if a member is unsupported for more than eight feet.

There you have it and if you win on Jeopardy thanks to this, I will work for a percentage.

Are YOU a Potential Hansen Buildings’ Client?

Please note, I use “client” rather than “customer”. 

A customer is someone who buys a commodity from a shop.  A client is a person or company receiving a service from a professional person or organization in return for payment.

Unfortunately, too many future barndominium, shouse and post frame building owners are either unable or unwilling to spot differences between a well-designed building and one barely (or even perhaps not) meeting construction standards.

And when things go awry (as can happen in construction), all too often fingers get pointed everywhere except at the person who did not do their homework prior to purchase.

“The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™”

Long time readers will recall my saga of purchasing a Jaguar XJ6 in 1988 (https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2011/12/pole-building-options-and-jaguars/). 

I wanted ‘it all’ and was willing to pay a goodly price in order to get it all.

When we at Hansen Pole Buildings talk about delivering “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™” we are absolutely serious about it.

It is why we want to talk personally with every client, not just send a plethora of emails and text messages back-and-forth. 

Why? Because none of us know…what we don’t know.

When I am shopping for a big ticket item – I want to speak to experts, and I expect expert advice. Just like the dashboard switch on my Jaguar, I don’t want to find out later on there is something I could have (or worse should have) done to have had an ideal end result.

We expect to deliver good old-fashioned personalized service and we hope you have an expectation of anyone you hire doing an exceptional job.

I am always heart broken when a client goes elsewhere and orders a new building.

Why?

About Hansen BuildingsBecause I know in my heart-of-hearts they will end up getting less of a building than they expected or deserved, and paying too much for what they settled for.  Sadly, companies with common names in our industry rely on their name to sell buildings, and not on the quality of their product. I’ll give them credit for doing a great marketing job. But are your needs quickly and responsibly serviced? Do you get your quote back without so much as a conversation about what you think you need? And does their sales staff really try to fit a building to your wants and needs and not shove your needs into one of their standard buildings? Think about it!

Regardless of whom you ultimately pick as your new building supplier – begin in a proper frame of mind. Throw out any preconceived notions about what your new building dimensions ‘should’ be, and instead, focus on what is needed to create your ideal dream building – one which will function as ably 10 or 40 years from now, as it does on completion day. And make darn sure your building supplier is designing your building to fit you, not you to their building.

Share with your Building Designer what problems your new building will solve for you. Discuss what this building absolutely must house and be used for, as well as what it might also do for you. And not just for today – imagine you can get out a crystal ball and look into the future.

Engage “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™”.

You’ll be glad you did.

More Post Frame Ultimateness!

I am not even certain “ultimateness” is a word, if not, it should be!

In yesterday’s article I left you with a cliff hanger. Today I will talk you down. We disclosed one solve yesterday, today’s is even bigger.

“Can my building’s trusses support a ceiling?”

This lament gets answered over-and-over in my every Monday, “Ask the Pole Barn Guru” column. Traditionally pole barns were farm buildings. Rarely did anyone ever finish an interior, or live in one. Due to this, pole barn trusses are most often designed to support minimal weight from bottom chords. Sometimes this design loading is as little as ½ psf (pounds per square foot), but more often one psf.

Now one psf happens to be wonderful for things like minimal wiring and lighting. What happens when one wants to install a ceiling? Whoops.

Part of “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™” includes us doing our best to assist clients in avoiding scenarios they will regret forever. An inability to support an initially unplanned-for ceiling would be way high on this list.

Most commonly ceilings are 5/8-inch thick gypsum wallboard (sheetrock). This is my ceiling material of choice, both for low investment outlay, as well as Type X providing some degree of fire resistance. Drywall is not light, roughly 2.3 psf. It also has to be supported by something other than widely spaced trusses. Ceiling joists (most often 2×6 every two feet) will add nearly a pound per square foot. Blown in insulation is relatively lightweight, even R-60 will add only 1.13 psf.

Hansen Pole Buildings has taken it upon ourselves to use a minimum of FIVE (5) psf for roof truss bottom chord design load on all spans up to and including 40 feet. This decision results in a capacity of 500 to 1000% more than most other post frame building kit providers, as well as post frame contractors!

Want to enjoy “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™” yourself? Dial 1(866)200-9657 and speak with a Hansen Pole Buildings’ Designer today!

P.S. This has nothing to do with post frame buildings. For those who are counting (I know of at least one), this is blog article #1666 (oh, no three sixes)! Our youngest daughter happened to have attended a Jesuit high school, and she was so pleased when she got her first cell phone while there and her number’s last four digits were……6666! So Allison, this blog is dedicated to you!

Hansen Pole Buildings is Number One

We Are Number One

 Hopefully you can survive the obnoxious YouTube commercial at the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04854XqcfCY.

Unlike the champions in Queen’s iconic 1977 hit “We Are The Champions”, Hansen Pole Buildings has merely won, from BUILD Magazine, their “Award for Outstanding Pole Barn Kits – USA” for 2018. It isn’t the world, however we like to believe we are the champions.

Whilet it is all fun to be recognized by the outside world, the true satisfaction comes from the kind words we receive from our clients, as well as the photos of their lovely workmanship. The pride of ownership of a project well done is overwhelming and we thank our clients for their unsurpassed kindness as well as the terrific photos.

About Hansen BuildingsHansen Pole Buildings does not rest upon our laurels, however. We are constantly working with RDPs (Registered Design Professionals – architects and engineers), as well as our valued vendors to develop new and better systems which deliver even greater value and long term successful performance to our clients. Our IT team is diligently adding to our Instant Pricing™ program to increase functionality, provide more custom and intricate options, as well as to decrease the window of time from order to delivery through automation.

It also is not as though we feel we alone are brilliant. The custom post frame building kit packages we provide are the result of hundreds of thousands of completed buildings, with input from D-I-Yers and builders all across the country.  Have a product, concept or idea which might make us and our buildings better? Don’t be shy about sharing – we love hearing from you!

In the meantime, please continue (or begin for the newcomers) enjoying reading both these blog articles as well as Monday’s “Ask the Pole Barn Guru” column, as I strive to entertain and inform.

Every member of the Hansen Pole Buildings’ team strives for one thing – to deliver “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience”™!

 

2018 Architecture Awards

2018 ARCHITECTURE AWARDS
For the second consecutive year Hansen Pole Buildings, LLC has been nominated for BUILD News’ Architecture Awards. Pretty heady stuff, however it seems after 16 years of promoting building excellence and delivering “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™”, our hard work and due diligence is paying off.

From BUILD News:

Shaping the built environment is a tough challenge for anyone, and the architects, designers and innovators across the architecture market have an important role to play in transforming the way we see the world. BUILD News has been spurred on by the success of last years’ awards, and again is looking to recognize only the best this incredible and expansive industry has to offer.

The 2018 Architecture Awards have been put in place to highlight the amazing work done by the talented designers, artists and visionaries whose talent and innovation have created talking points which will span generations.

Geography and business size are not a consideration in nominations; Build News only wants the very best of the best, no matter whether they are a sole trader in a small town or a multinational corporation with offices in the world’s largest cities. It is not just architects who are eligible for the program. Everyone involved in the industry can be a possible participant, from architectural technologists, products suppliers, software developers and more. Only excellence is important.

BUILD News opened their voting form globally at the beginning of February and invited our 110,000 worldwide subscribers to nominate and circulate voting details. All nominees via the voting form are contacted to ask permission to continue to the research and judging phases.

The Architecture Awards are judged by the highly experienced BUILD News panel. It consists of an international, multi-lingual collective of individuals, with backgrounds from a myriad of fields such as business, media, journalism, history and European languages. The panel is led by a veteran academic leader with international pedagogic & coaching experience who is well versed in research, fact-checking and mediation; allowing the panel to operate with efficacy and dependability.

Whether Hansen Buildings “wins” an award or not, there is pride and satisfaction in just being nominated. Every single day we continue to strive to deliver “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™”.

Six Reasons to Not Invest in a New Hansen Pole Building

No, I did not hit my head, there are some legitimate reasons not to invest in a new Hansen Pole building.

1. Land

For some it is they do not own “the dirt” and in a few cases never will. For those who do not yet own the dirt, or don’t have it picked out, I would encourage you to get the dirt first. Then design your new post frame building to best fit with the needs of your property.

2. Finances

Other people need funding for their projects. Some of these folks have inadequate credit scores to be able to qualify for financing. For the first group, options are available (https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/financing/). For the second, focus serious efforts on improving your credit score – at times negative reports on credit scores can be cleared up.

 

The top two are fairly general and could be applicable to most any post frame building kit supplier or builder.

Being specific…..

3. You don’t like us.

As much as we would like to believe everyone should be friends, there are some cases where two people just do not click. The Hansen Pole Buildings team endeavors to provide “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™”. To every client, every time. Should you experience unresolvable issues, please contact Eric@HansenPoleBuildings.com immediately. It is a quick and easy fix to reassign you to a different Building Designer.

4. We can’t deliver fast enough.

Every post frame building kit package Hansen Pole Buildings provides is 100% totally custom. It is designed just for you to best meet with your needs as well as satisfy the climactic conditions (wind, snow, seismic) imposed by your Building Officials governing your specific site.

We are also busy.

Our clients understand it is ultimately “All About the Building”. Hansen Pole Buildings does it right. Right, however, always wins in a race against quick and wrong, as the cost in time, effort and money to fix wrong is painful.

5. We cannot provide what you want.

If it is structurally sound and a post frame building, we can provide it. We cannot and will not build your new post frame building for you. We can give you a fair idea of estimated hours for construction, what we feel is fair market value for erection and assist you in finding possible builders whom you may vet. We also will not agree to under-design your building. No matter how much money you think it will “save” you.

6. Our Buildings Are Too Expensive.

As compared to what?

It could be everyone’s prices appear to be out of budget. If this is the case, your Hansen Pole Buildings’ Designer can assist with alternative such as all or partial financing, adjustments of dimensions and/or features to arrive at the best end results.

If we have not provided evidence of our benefits to you being of more value for your investment, then we have not done you the service we mean to provide. If we have not adequately expressed this, please let us know immediately what we have done wrong, so we do not repeat our errors.

I firmly believe Hansen Pole Buildings offers the best possible value for the post frame building investment. We continue to make improvements in our buildings and our systems to provide, “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience™”.

Post Frame Building Clients Can Be So Fun

Post Frame Building Clients Can Be So Fun!

In providing “The Ultimate Post Frame Building Experience”™ Hansen Pole Buildings is not selling buildings to anyone – we are providing a service. If there is such a thing as a past life or lives, I must have been some sort of instructor in a past life. I am so enjoying our clients who want to know about their buildings, how they work and how to get the ultimate strength results from the new post frame building kit packages. These are the clients whom I know will easily construct a finished building with far better workmanship than they could ever pay a builder to do.

One of my current favorites is a Mr. W. I have never had the privilege of meeting him in person, we have not even spoken on the phone. However we’ve had some super email interactions. I could be mistaken, but he seems like the type of person with whom I could sit for hours and discuss buildings over cold adult beverages.

I’d like to share with you a recent exchange between us:
Ralph wrote:

“Thanks for the excellent information! Very encouraging to have these pesky issues put to bed.
I have Joist Hanger questions on the LU28’s that hold the 2×8 Purlins:

1. I assume I will nail perpendicular through the holes? Not angled like the LUS style hangers?
2. 8 nails into the truss? Use all the holes?
a. Double truss should I use 10d x 3” common HDG? Or just use 10d x 1-1/2” joist nails always?
b. Won’t nails into hanger on opposite side hit these nails or cause problems if using 10d x 3”?
c. Single truss should I use 10d x 1-1/2” joist nails?
3. 6 nails into the purlin? Use all the holes?
Use 10d x 1-1/2” joist nails?
4. All the purlins are under compression except at the single truss ends. Should I use SDS screws on the hanger-to-truss ends? The sheet metal will eventually provide the compression needed I’m sure.

Thanks,
Ralph”

To which I replied:
“Mr. W. ~

Thank you for your kind words.

When using engineered hangers, always nail in the direction of the holes (if no “bubble”, so the hangar nailing area is flat, nail straight in). Always nail through every hole which will allow for the fastener to have tips into wood without causing undue splitting. In most instances, only a portion of the holes actually need nails to be adequate to support the appropriate loading conditions, however having open nail holes tends to become problematic to field inspectors and we prefer safety over remorse.

In double trusses use three inch nails, if you place two hangers back to back, you will notice the holes in the flanges do not align with each other for this very reason. Single trusses – use 10d x 1-1/2″ nails. While the nails will prove to be adequate, SD screws (in my humble opinion) are a superior fastener and I encourage their use whenever possible and practical.”

Kindest Regards,

Mike the Pole Barn Guru

For related reading:
Simpson Strong-Tie® hangers:

https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2013/08/simpson/

and

https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2016/02/hang-those-joist-hangers/

Strong-Drive® Screws (aka SD screws):

https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2017/03/simpson-drive-screws/

Joist Hanger nails:

https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2013/01/tico-10d-common-nails/