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Insulation in KY, Uplift Resistance for a Post Collar, and Optimal Dimensions

This Wednesday readers “Ask the Guru” about issues such as how to best insulate a residence and garage in KY, the best method to resist uplift, and what the “optimal dimensions” might be for a 2 story, 4 bedroom, 2 bathroom home.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Insulation questions. Lexington KY Zone 4. Residential req. Roof r38, walls r12. I’m planning a hybrid steel truss 36x48x12 with 6/12 pitch. 1/2 unconditioned garage and 1/2 living quarters. I have 2000+ sq ft of new 3″eps already on hand that I picked up for free. Here’s my idea. I’d really appreciate feedback. Roof from outside to inside. Metal sheeting, horizontal furring strips, foil reflective (double bubble), 3″eps. For living quarters: 2×8 purlins filled with rockwool or other, smart vapor barrier, T & G pine ceiling. Walls same deal except exchange 3″eps for 3″ compressed fiberboard (compressed fiberboard mostly because I can get it for 5.60/sheet 4×8 x1″ r4.0) ERV considerations? Thank you DERICK in LEXINGTON

DEAR DERICK: My concerns…

2021 IECC (International Energy Conservation Code) requires R-60 ceiling and R-30 walls for Climate Zone 4. https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/IECC2021P2/chapter-4-re-residential-energy-efficiency#IECC2021P2_RE_Ch04_SecR402

Roof of unconditioned area – in order to maintain shear strength of steel roofing horizontal furring must be adequately attached to prevent deformation of fasteners in EPS.

Roof of living quarters – Purlin cavity cannot just be filled with any sort of batts. A minimum of an inch of continuous airflow must be provided between roof deck and batts. You might consider two inches of closed cell spray foam applied directly to underside of roof steel, then adding unfaced batts to fill balance of cavity.

Walls – same concerns as with unconditioned roof area.

Your building will be drying to inside, so expect to have to mechanically dehumidify.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: What is a good detail for my post collar to resist uplift in sandy soil during hurricane? How do I determine proper depth for a given height? JOE in FORT WALTON BEACH

DEAR JOE: Your building’s engineer will specify adequate details to resist hurricane speed wind uplift and over turning. He or she will also determine proper depth and diameter of encasement based upon loads to be carried in conjunction with not only eave height, but also roof height.

If your building will not have a concrete slab on grade, expect to see an uplift plate specified (for extended reading please see https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2018/12/uplift-plate/)

Bottom collars are part of a wind uplift design solution (read more here: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2012/02/concrete-collars/)

Rebar hairpins from column into concrete slab on grade are an effective part of a wind uplift structural design solution:

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: What dimensions would a pole barn have to be to make a 2 story, 4 bedroom, 2 bathroom home? DANA in LIMA

DEAR DANA: This would be equivalent of asking what size vehicle is needed for four passengers. While four might squeeze into a Mini-Cooper, an Escalade might be a better fit. We have numerous examples on our website to peruse: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/gallery/floor-plans/. Your best bet will be to work with a Hansen Pole Buildings’ Floor Plans Specialist to arrive at a design solution best fitting your family’s wants and needs. http://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/post-frame-floor-plans/

 

Replacing Panels, Rebar in Column, and Wholesale Purchases(?)

This Wednesday the Pole Barn Guru answers reader questions about replacing old steel panels and adding an overhead garage door, if rebar is needed in the column to collar connection of the footing, and the ability to buy rock wool insulation wholesale.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I’m purchasing a small farm in rural Missouri. It has a 24′ x 60′ pole barn. the framing / structure is in good shape. It has corrugated metal panels. these are sound, but the looks are poor. It also has the sliding barn type door. My hope is to re-face the building with better looking panels and put in an overhead-style door ( garage type door). JOHN in NEWINGTON

DEAR JOHN: New steel cladding would certainly “freshen up” looks of this building. It would also allow for steel siding to be held up from grade (by adding a pressure preservative treated splash plank at base), rather than being run into ground.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Does rebar need to be installed in the concrete that surrounds the column in a pole barn? I will have holes of 12″, 18″ and 24″. Thanks. LOUIS in STEPHENS CITY

DEAR LOUIS: Unless it is called out for on your engineer sealed plans, there would usually be no requirement for rebar in concrete column encasement.

A 12″ diameter hole would be very unusual as Codes require a 4″ minimum space between corners of columns and edge of holes (a 4×4 perfectly placed in the center of a 13″ hole would meet Code requirements).

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Hi, I was watching a video on Youtube recently and saw a guy hanging 6″ rock wool batt insulation. I was wondering if you might know where I can buy this product wholesale? I built a 30×64 and am at that stage where I’ll be looking to insulate myself soon. MARK in ARAPAHOE

DEAR MARK: Unless you are willing to buy an entire 53′ van box of rock wool, you are not going to be able to purchase it wholesale and even then you would need to provide proof you would be distributing on a regular basis from an established business in construction supply trades.