Tag Archives: 24″ On Center Framing

Roof Purlins for a Bar Joisted Lean-To

Roof Purlins for a Bar Joisted Lean-to

Reader JIM in MOORESBURG writes:

“First, I have spent the last 3 hours reading around your site and am impressed. I appreciate the manner you answer questions on your site”, respectful and factual with no hint of disrespect (even if deserved) in your replies. Professional and well done! Second…My question is about correct purlin sizing/spacing on a lean-to shed roof 48ft long 25ft deep with 12ft bar joist spacing spanned by these purlins. (this is an open front machine shed). I wish to size for the snow load that occurs here (mountains of East Tennessee!) about once every 15 yrs which is 2 ft of snow. Purlins will be bolted into “U” shaped brackets welded to the tops of the bar joist similar to the design used on many kit pole barn metal trusses. My attempt to calculate purlin size/spacing results in using 2x8x12′ purlins at 24″ spacing but too many assumptions on my part to be comfortable yet other detail…Bar joists attached to post (in ground) adjacent to an existing wood barn. Roof Metal is Type “R” deep rib. Yes…this is DIY with materials from my surplus pile:) thanks.”

Thank you for your kind words. Our eldest son and his lovely bride lived in Maryville for many years, so I know where you are and have driven in your area.

Two feet of snow should give roughly a 25 psf ground snow load (https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/calculating-loads/). Without an engineer’s review, your attempt at calculations look as though they should be plenty adequate – PROVIDED:

Roof slope of existing wood barn and lean-to are the same and in the same roof plane.

Otherwise you will have either an accumulation of snow at a steeper-to-flatter roof plane, a slide off load, or drifting to account for. If any of these are your case, then you should contract a Registered Professional Engineer for an accurate structural design. Any of these situations could easily cause an overload of your bar joists as well and should be validated.

Ceiling Insulation, Drafting Capabilities, and 24″ On Center Framing

This week the Pole Barn Guru answers reader questions about “ceiling insulation” for a roof rebuild, the capabilities of our drafting and proprietary pricing program, and “what percentage of pole buildings are 24″ on center?”

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: The birds have destroyed the front half of the ceiling insulation in our 40 x 60 pole building. We need a new roof and we plan to take out all the insulation when the roof is done. We don’t know what else to do because if we leave the insulation in the back half of the ceiling, the birds may destroy that also. What do you think? SHARON in STERLING

DEAR SHARON: Typically when I hear people talk about birds having destroyed pole building insulation I think of what is commonly known as Metal Building Insulation. Usually this is a thin layer of fiberglass with a white vinyl face – and once birds get started into it, there is no turning back https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2018/09/spot-problems-with-this-pole-barn-photo/

If you are doing a reroof, to control condensation your should look at ordering roof steel with a factory applied I.C.C. https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2020/09/integral-condensation-control-2/


DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I was curious on what program you use to make your plans? Does it do take off and quotes with the drawings? Can you design the interior also the exterior to make a shouse? TIM in NORFOLK

instant pricingDEAR TIM: Always a pleasure to hear from a “lumber guy”. Our blueprints are actually drafted individually on AutoCAD, however we are gradually transitioning to where most fairly straightforward work will be automated from our trademarked and proprietary “Instant Pricing” system. We searched everywhere trying to find a computer program able to actually accurately do a structural analysis of post frame buildings and found none existed. We created our own and added to it abilities to do real time quotes for any climactic condition and anywhere in America. Our program does quotes, invoices, material takeoffs, creates purchase orders and interfaces with our client data base.

While it can do interior walls, we opted to create a full service program for shouse and barndominium plans with a real person interacting via screen sharing so clients can watch their homes appear before their very eyes from the comfort of their homes.


DEAR POLE BARN GURU: What percent of pole barns are on 24″ centers? BRUCE in SXARTZ CREEK

DEAR BRUCE: There are numerous components of post frame (pole barn) buildings often placed 24 inches on center. Among these could be wall girts, roof purlins, sometimes roof trusses (most often seen with shingled roofs), floor joists or floor trusses over crawl spaces, basements and for second or third floors. One of fully engineered post frame building design’s beauties is there is no obligation to be at a specific spacing and materials can be utilized for their full structural capacities – making them extremely cost efficient.