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Endwall Overhangs, Foundation Insulation, and Sloping Ground

This Wednesday the Pole Barn Guru answers reader questions about setting trusses on a Hansen Building with endwall overhangs, a solution for an insulation question, and the possibility of building on steep sloping ground with some exposed columns.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Are all trusses set at the same height are the end trusses lower so the purlins hang over the end truss by 2 feet? TROY in SCAPPOOSE

DEAR TROY: Thank you for your investment into a new Hansen Pole Building.

For quickest answers to technical support questions, please refer to Page 2 of your Construction Manual.

Our buildings are designed to maximize interior clear height, so roof purlins are joist hung into sides of interior truss top chords (Detail 5/S-3 of your engineer sealed plans). In order to support endwall overhangs, roof purlins go across end trusses (detail 9/S-4). With a 5/12 roof slope and 2×8 roof purlins, this requires lowering end trusses by 7-5/8″ as shown on Sheet S-4 of plans.

You will want to review and familiarize yourself with Construction Manual Chapter 55.


DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Hi Mike! I’ve been looking for a good answer to a question that I have, your profile name suggests you might just be the guy to ask! I very much would like to put a upcoming post frame building project on a 6ft frost protected foundation, 4 ft below, and 2 foot above grade. The building will be heated and cooled, and I just have not come across the best detail on how to insulate, protect the exterior insulation, and flash between the exterior steel and the foundation insulation. What is the best way to go about this to balance R-value, appearance, and durability that come with that 2ft of above grade foundation wall. Thank you for your time! CODY in WISCONSIN

DEAR CODY: In my humble opinion, foundation walls for post frame buildings defeat much of the cost savings with little or no added benefit. I will now step off my soap box….

You can achieve same (if not better) results by adding insulation board to inside of your wall. It also takes away protection and flashing challenges. Look at using Rockwool Comfortboard 80.


DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Can any of your buildings be built where the back half of the building is suspended on poles…..because the ground slopes downhill? What about zoning? Do you check with my county to find out whether or not I can have a building? DAVID in WESTMINSTER

DEAR DAVID: Yes, some or all of your new Hansen Pole Building can be suspended on poles (basically a partial ‘stilt’ house). https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2017/09/stilt-houses/

While we do not check with your county to find out whether or not you can have a building, it is a very pain free process for you to confirm: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2020/01/your-barndominiums-planning-department/


Lowering an End Truss

When NOT to Measure 5-1/2 Inches for a 2×6

My lovely bride is an RN (Registered Nurse) by training and profession. In medicine 100mg is 100mg, not 87.5mg and someone’s heart rate might be 80, not “somewhere between 80 and 120”. Wrapping her head around why a 2×6 is 1-1/2 inches by 5-1/2 inches just didn’t make any sense to her when she first entered the building industry over a dozen years ago.

Can’t blame her.

There also comes a time in construction, when measuring for the amount of space taken up by a 2×6, just isn’t 5-1/2 inches measured vertically.

Before declaring me a nut job, or a few nuggets short of a McDonald’s® Happy Meal® please read on….

In most parts of the country, pole building roof purlins (the roof framing running the length of the building) are placed between the top chords of the roof trusses and supported by joist hangers. This makes the upper surface of all the framing members a nice smooth plane (albeit at the slope of the roof).

When a roof overhang is created beyond the end of a building, the end trusses are lowered so the purlins can cross over the top of the end truss. This cantilever creates a very strong and study overhang.

So, the end truss gets lowered by 5-1/2 inches to make up for the 2×6 purlins, right?

Only if you are willing to have the roof be higher at the ends of the building, than in the interior. Most folks do not especially like this look.

Okay, so how far IS the end truss lowered?

The end truss needs to be lowered by the height of the purlin adjusted for the slope of the roof.

Taking a leap back to middle school or high school mathematics….Square both numbers of the slope, add them together, take the square root of the sum, divide by 12 (converting feet to inches) and multiply by the height of the 2×6 (5-1/2 inches). The steps of the equation look something like this (for a 4/12 roof slope):

4^2 = 16

12^2 = 144

16 + 144 = 160

SQR of 160 = 12.649

12.649 / 12 = 1.0541

1.0541 X 5.5 = 5.798 inches or 5-13/16”

On a 4/12 roof slope, with 2×6 purlins overhanging the end truss to support the end overhang, the end trusses must be set lower on the columns than the interior trusses by 5-13/16 inches.

endwall truss lowering distanceThe plans provided by Hansen Pole Buildings for our clients to construct their buildings with, do give this dimension on the plans. Also, it is provided in our Construction Manual in a table which gives the lowering distance for every whole numbered roof slope from 2/12 to 8/12 and purlins sizes from 2×6 to 2×10.

Even with all of this information, there are clients who just can’t wrap their heads around it. They really want to insist they lower the end truss 5-1/2”, not the 5-13/16” which is required to make their roof a true plane.

For them, I recommend taking a leap of faith. This isn’t our first rodeo. We actually have tried this out a few thousand times – and remarkably, it has worked every single time.

Try it out yourself, and send me an email if you happen to be the first person where it doesn’t work!