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Existing Foundation, “Home/Pool Combo” and HOA’s

This week the Pole Barn Guru tackles reader questions about design ideas to build over or around an existing foundation, designing a “home/pool combo,” and design options for roofing and siding when dealing with an HOA.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: We currently have foundation/basement that measures 14×66, with additional 26×26 room with ground level concrete. We’d like to build on this same foundation, but go wider over the basement area and add overhang/porch on the long side. If this makes any sense, I hope it does, would you have ideas and builders in the Dodge County WI area? DIANE in BURNETT

DEAR DIANE: In all likelihood it could be possible to build around your existing foundation and basement. This would be structurally preferable to attempting to build directly upon existing concrete of unknown quality.
Currently (and for the foreseeable future) there is a nationwide shortage of building erectors. Most high quality erectors are booked out into 2023. We would strongly encourage you to consider erecting your own building shell.

For those without the time or inclination, we have an extensive independent Builder Network covering the contiguous 48 states (https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/find-a-builder/). We can assist you in getting erection labor pricing as well as introducing you to potential builders.

A CAUTION in regards to ANY erector: If an erector tells you they can begin quickly it is generally either a big red flag, or you are being price gouged. ALWAYS THOROUGHLY VET ANY CONTRACTOR https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2018/04/vetting-building-contractor/
We would appreciate the opportunity to participate in your new home. Please email your existing concrete dimensions and photos, site address and best contact number to our Design Studio Manager caleb@hansenpolebuildings.com (866)200-9657 Thank you.


DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Have you ever built or designed a pole barn or pole barndominium with a swimming pool in or under the roof? Separate from the main living area but in heated living space. I’ve been interested in a home pool combo like they have in modern motels . ERIC in SPOONER

DEAR ERIC: Short answer is yes. Here is some extended reading: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2019/08/post-frame-indoor-swimming-pool-considerations/


DEAR POLE BARN GURU: We just bought our retirement lot in Brownwood TX. It will be a couple years 3-7 before we retire but I have a couple questions. Our favorite idea is a approx 40’X70-80′ with 1600sqft living section. Other half would be pull thru garage for rv and cars. If that helps paint a picture. I have looked at some of your builds and like the different options. We are trying to figure out options with our idea for buildings and HOA requirements. 1 with roof and siding are there other material options? Shingle or other material for roof and same with siding? 2 Can a small 3′ tall brick/stone from ground up be placed for design to off set? 3 can patio and entry over hangs be added on? Thank you for your time. JOHN in BRIGHTON

DEAR JOHN: I have always encouraged my readers to (when possible) avoid having to deal with HOA’s (https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2016/05/not-mess-hoas/). Sometimes, one finds an ideal spot (other than being in a HOA) and so just has to deal with it.

About Hansen BuildingsWhile painted steel siding and roofing are your most durable and least expensive options, we can design and provide any materials desired. We have a client doing stucco with concrete tile roofing currently, just as an example.

Wainscots of either real brick or stone, or thin brick or faux stone are increasingly popular and easily incorporated.

All sorts of patio or entry way coverings can be made a part of your new home. They can be single sloping either at same pitch as main roof, or with a pitch break (slope change). We also can cover these areas as reverse gables https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2015/07/reverse-gable-porch/


HOA Requirements

Some Temporary Holiday Cheer

Back in May of this year I wrote about how the neighbors of a new post frame barndominium had ganged up under the auspices of their HOA Requirements to try to force the demolition of the building under construction. (You can read about it here: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2016/05/not-mess-hoas/).

Well, the building owners have continued the fight to allow their building to stand. Here is the latest news as reported by Lisa Hammer of the Dispatch-Argus:

“A house at the center of controversy in Ponderosa Hills subdivision in rural Colona might be allowed to stand.

Judge Jeffrey O’Connor on Thursday reversed an order from last May that the 9,000-square-foot house/pole barn built by Brett and Melissa Swanson had to be torn down.

The Swansons attended the Henry County Circuit Court hearing. as did 17 neighbors who oppose permitting the structure to remain.

The judge advised the neighbors’ attorney, Nadine Palmgren, to join Henry County zoning officer Kyle Stromquist to discuss the case, with the issue being whether the residence conforms to the county’s residential zoning code. He said State’s Attorney Matt Schutte would represent the county. William Stengel represents the Swansons.

building-plansThe judge also said the only drawings he himself had seen for the property were more “footprints” than blueprints and would not meet expectations of a property requiring building inspections.

“You’ve got to have something more than that,” he said.

The judge said if the structure conforms to county code, it can go forward, but if it does not, Mr. Swanson would be asked to tear down the structure.

 “I’m sorry this whole thing came up because it was stupid,” added the judge. “Utter disregard of reading the English language by those folks over there,” he said, indicating the Swansons.

A Feb. 22 hearing was set.”

I would implore those who are considering a new post frame building to make sure you dot all of the I’s and cross all of the T’s in dealing with your permitting issuing authorities. Please do not make the assumption just because it is a post frame (pole barn) building, it will be somehow exempted from the auspices of the Building Code. I also endorse the judge in saying HOA requirements need to be followed. Just because it is a pole barn, does not exempt the Swanson’s or anyone else in adhering to HOA regulations. Rules are rules, folks.