Tag Archives: ICF

Exterior Materials and Sloped Site, Post Frame Education, and a Crawl Space

This Wednesday the Pole Barn Guru answers reader questions about the types of exterior materials which can be chosen from, a foundation into a sloped site, an education in post frame to an unfamiliar reader, and building on a crawl space.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I am thinking of getting one of your buildings for a home.
· What types of exterior materials can I choose from?
· If there is a slope in the terrain, can I build a foundation and place the building on top? How would the building fit with the foundation?
Thank you. EMILIO

DEAR EMILIO: We can engineer to attach to a myriad of foundation possibilities – block, ICF or poured concrete being most common. With any of the previous, we provide code approved brackets to pour into foundation. We can also design and provide permanent wood foundations. Unless your site has an extreme grade change, it is usually most cost effective to cut and fill your site to bring footprint area of building to level.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I am seeking affordable housing but am unfamiliar with pole barns. Where should I start to educate myself? I have questions like 1) what is the process of building one? 2) legality of the unconventional home (I live in South Carolina) 3) is financing a pain because it’s not the norm 4) do you offer services beyond just the building, things like drive, septics, and so on. MITCHELL in LANCASTER

DEAR MITCHELL: Pole barns (non-engineered version of post frame buildings) are typically not designed to meet structural requirements of building codes. A great place to start is by visiting our website www.HansenPoleBuildings.com and navigating to upper right corner where it says SEARCH. Type in any subject you want information on and ENTER. There are roughly 3000 available articles on a myriad of post frame subjects.

Many of our potential clients find this to be helpful: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2021/02/a-shortlist-for-smooth-barndominium-sailing/

We have provided hundreds of our fully engineered post frame homes/barndominiums to our clients in South Carolina. They are legal in all 50 states (and we have provided buildings in every state).

As to affordability, Fully engineered post frame homes and barndominiums, modest tastes, DIY, budget roughly $75-85 per sft for conditioned spaces, $35 for all others. Does not include land, site prep, utilities, permits. If you hire it done, expect to pay two to three times as much.

We are not contractors, however we do have an extensive network of building erectors and General Contractors serving most areas.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Is it possible to place a barndominium on a crawlspace? MICHAEL in GUSTON

DEAR MICHAEL: Absolutely it is possible. Most common is to increase building eave height and incorporate a raised wood floor.

By using wet-set brackets, we can also attach to CMU blocks, poured concrete or ICFs. By excavating, another option is to incorporate our glulaminated columns into a Permanent Wood Foundation.

For extended reading, please see: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2019/03/slab-on-grade-or-crawl-space/

Solving a Massive Pole Building Grade Change

Solving Massive Post Frame Building Grade Change

Most everything about post frame building construction is predicated upon “your clear, level site”. But, what happens when (like most of our planet) there is not a flat level place to start with – instead there exists massive amounts of grade change?

Hansen Pole Buildings’ Designer Doug ran into one of these situations recently and shot up a distress flare looking for some advice:

“Anybody have an opinion on what be the most cost effective or least painful
course of action for this soon to be-I hope-client?”

Here is information from Doug’s client:

“Attached are pictures of the dig to the right of my driveway cutting into
the hillside. On the left side in front of the Bobcat appears to be close to
finished grade. The cut at that point is nearly 7 feet tall. The soil type
is decomposed granite. With a few spots of stubborn rock.

My options at this point are to build a engineered retaining wall to hold
back the soil before building a pole barn on the flat spot, with drainage
coming from around the back to the front. The other option is to just do a
spread footing with a foundation wall. and then a curb wall of a 2 x 6 on
top of that.

The most creative thought would be to do both in the same wall. The wall
would be supported in and by itself, and the building would stand next to the
wall, supported on posts with loads at the post, and not on top of the wall.
Is that even possible?
Thanks
Bobby”

Mike the Pole Barn Guru writes:

Well, luckily or unluckily, I have a similar situation on one of my own personal post frame buildings at Newman Lake, Washington. Here was what we came up with as a best solution: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2012/02/grade-change/. In this scenario, our post frame wall columns are mounted to ICFs on “cut” sides and traditionally embedded on flat or low sides.

Post frame construction is moving pedal to floor into residential markets where these types of scenarios are going to appear more and more.

I can see these types of scenarios being eventually added as options to Hansen Pole Buildings’ “Instant Pricing™” system where we could not only design and price but also provide blocks, connectors and needed rebar.

Just more moves in providing “The Ultimate Post-Frame Building Experience™”

Considering constructing on a less than ideal site? Call 1(866)200-9657 and discuss your situation with a Hansen Pole Buildings’ Designer today.