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Building Within Height Restrictions

Building Within Height Restrictions

From small towns to large metropolitan areas, most have restrictions upon heights of buildings. Most restrictive of all are typically those placed upon residential accessory buildings (think garages and shops).

In urban planning there are a lot of cases where cities are for and against height restrictions. Mostly because some communities are expected to look a certain way and to keep a consistent image conserving its essence. For example, nobody would be allowed to build a high rise in the middle of Florence, Italy. Some urban planners encourage disappearance of these ordinances and codes and push for a free market approach where anybody would be able to build as much as there’s demand.

Then you have neighbors. Neighbors will always be against new tall developments because they fear their neighborhood will transform for bad. However most of them ignore their real estate value increases when tall buildings are built in their neighborhoods.

Reader STEVEN in MANSFIELD writes:

“My township has an ordinance of a 1,000 square foot barn/garage, which is fine because I want a 30×30. But they have a maximum height ordinance of 15 feet. How can that be achieved? I would want to put a vehicle lift in the barn also.”

Mike the Pole Barn Guru responds:

Overall height restrictions can be far tougher to work around than ones limiting only wall height. In Steven’s case, he wants to have a vehicle lift inside his building, usually requiring a clear height of 12 feet.

Let’s work from most common (and usually most economical) roof slope of 4/12. In a 30 foot wide building, difference between height of an outside eave wall and center of roof would be 60 inches, or five feet.

By placing columns 10 feet from each sidewall and using dimensional lumber or LVL (https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2013/01/lvl/) rafters instead of roof trusses, it would allow adequate height for a vehicle lift in interior area between two columns. This would afford a nine foot width overhead door centered in an endwall as well.

 

Pros and Cons of Two-Story Pole Buildings

Custom Designed Gambrel Pole BuildingBuilding a two-story or multi-story pole barn is an ambitious project, and if you’re considering such an undertaking, be sure you know both the advantages of stacking space and the issues that come with it.

Think about some of these common pros and cons related to the construction of two-story pole buildings, and remember: the higher you go, the harder it will be to finish the project.

 

Pros of Building Two Stories

Multi-story pole buildings are not without their benefits, especially for those who prefer the outside over the inside.

Lots of Building, Lots of Land
You still get double the square footage of your first story, but you get to preserve the land that would ordinarily fall to the extra space needed for the second story on the first level. With the extra space, you can build new sheds, create lush gardening spaces, or just stretch your legs on your expansive plot of land.

Superior Fire Safety
Your building will be doubly protected by fire because it has to align with building code. You’ll need a one-hour fire separation between stories to keep your building legal, which may be bothersome, but will keep you, your family, and whatever items you have stored safer.

More Aesthetic Options
The extra height on your building opens your pole barn up to a world of new looks.

  • Gambrel roofs have room to stretch and sway with a second story.
  • Monitor roofs take on a new purpose in multi-story buildings.
  • Fit custom building designs into multi-story plans for ultimate personalization.

You can even restructure lean-tos with added support to double as porches and so much more. Adding a second story is your chance to get creative – just make sure you factor your creative ideas into plans before construction begins.

Gambrel Concessions Building

 

Cons of Multi-Level Pole Barns

Pole buildings with two or more stories have their shortcomings, too, especially when you start factoring in logistics.

More Expensive than a Single Level
It’s most likely considerably cheaper to build a pole barn with the same total square footage on a single level than it is to build a multi-story building. Without the need for additional structural support, fire safety considerations, and efforts to match additional buildings codes, you can stretch your budget even further on a single story than you can on two.

Accessibility Issues
You’ll of course need to build stairs, which can end up inside or outside, but if you yourself are or live with those who are disabled (or if you have or plan on having children), you’ll also have to construct handicap access to and from your second story. It can prove to be a challenge both spatially and financially to provide universal accessibility.

Height Restrictions
This may burst your bubble: you may not even be able to begin your pole barn project if your local planning department can’t give you the OK to break ground. Building codes differ from area to area, so make sure to visit your planning department before you consult with the pole building experts.

Two Stories or One?
It’s best not to make compromises when laying down plans for a pole building, even when considering whether to build one or two stories. The largest expense is simply deciding to build a barn of any size, so when the decision comes down to square footage, be sure to maximize every time. It’s easier to find a use for unused space than it is to add on to a pole barn.

The largest considerations will be, as usual, time and money. You’ll have to spend more time and effort ensuring your plans and building are up to code, safe, and accessible, and you’ll have to make room in your budget to account for those efforts. If you’re ready and willing to spend some extra resources, opt for the second story.

Limits on Agricultural Buildings

Pole Buildings in the Nanny State

I’m looking out of the sliding glass patio door of an ocean front, fourth-floor condo in Crucita, Ecuador this morning….watching the waves rolling up the beach. Over the last week, my bride, my brother and I racked up over 1600 kilometers in a rental car – checking out the country.

As best I can tell, with very few restrictions, one can construct just about any type of building anywhere in this country. This may be one of the many reasons so many gringos are escaping the United States for Ecuador – the freedom to utilize one’s own property in the way one sees as the best fit, rather than a nanny state dictating for you what is in your best interest.

I just read an article in the Forest Lake Times (Minnesota) authored by reporter Mary Bailey, which underscores the issue of government intervention.

Agricultural Storage BuildingIn need of storage space for farm equipment, Thomasen planned to put up a second machine shed last winter on the 40 acres he owns on Oren Road. He farms about 350 acres and stores part of his machinery on a farm he rents.

But in Scandia, Thomasen found, on 40 acres he can’t have the size building he needs. Current ordinance limits the total square footage of accessory buildings on 40 acres to 5,500 square feet.

In May Township, Forest Lake, Hugo, Columbus and Lino Lakes, there is no limit on the size or number of agriculture buildings on lots over 20 acres. A Scandia resident must have 80 acres to have no limit on total square footage.

Rather than request a variance, Thomasen asked the city to change the ordinance.” 

It turns out even their planning commission agreed the 80-acre requirement for unlimited agricultural buildings is too restrictive, but also wanted to look at the square footage and number of buildings allowed in other categories.

Instead of 80 acres, the planning commission could match neighboring cities and use 20 acres for unlimited agricultural buildings. The council had asked them to consider changing the number to 30, as one council member was not comfortable with 20.

Then the debates began:

“Most of the planning commissioners also preferred using 20 acres. “In our comprehensive plan, we said we want to be more friendly to agriculture,” Council Chair Maefsky said.

“It seems arbitrary and whimsical to use 30 without a specific reason,” added Commissioner Jan Hogle.

Only Steven Philippi questioned the wisdom of moving to 20 acres, saying a higher building density can produce conflicts with neighbors and cause more traffic. “Do more agriculture buildings make the character more rural?” he asked.

Limiting accessory structures is one way to prevent future use that is not compatible with the neighborhood. “If the property changes hands and is no longer agriculture,” City Administrator Anne Hurlburt said, “what will happen to those buildings?”

Commissioner Peter Schwarz argued against writing code based on fear of what might happen. He pointed out that when the code was changed to allow more animals, it was not changed to allow more space to keep hay for them.

“You need 120 bales to sustain one horse over the winter,” he said.”

Farmers, like Mr. Thomasen, often own smaller tracts of land themselves – where they need buildings to store and maintain equipment, while they may own and farm numerous scattered parcels, or cash rent land from others.

For those who are not familiar, an acre of land is 43,560 square feet. A restriction of 5500 square feet of building on 40 acres, is to be allowed to cover less than 1/3 of 1% of the area with buildings! Applying the same restrictions to this article of about 700 words – would limit my writing to TWO WORDS!