Tag Archives: sloped build site

Exterior Materials and Sloped Site, Post Frame Education, and a Crawl Space

This Wednesday the Pole Barn Guru answers reader questions about the types of exterior materials which can be chosen from, a foundation into a sloped site, an education in post frame to an unfamiliar reader, and building on a crawl space.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I am thinking of getting one of your buildings for a home.
· What types of exterior materials can I choose from?
· If there is a slope in the terrain, can I build a foundation and place the building on top? How would the building fit with the foundation?
Thank you. EMILIO

DEAR EMILIO: We can engineer to attach to a myriad of foundation possibilities – block, ICF or poured concrete being most common. With any of the previous, we provide code approved brackets to pour into foundation. We can also design and provide permanent wood foundations. Unless your site has an extreme grade change, it is usually most cost effective to cut and fill your site to bring footprint area of building to level.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I am seeking affordable housing but am unfamiliar with pole barns. Where should I start to educate myself? I have questions like 1) what is the process of building one? 2) legality of the unconventional home (I live in South Carolina) 3) is financing a pain because it’s not the norm 4) do you offer services beyond just the building, things like drive, septics, and so on. MITCHELL in LANCASTER

DEAR MITCHELL: Pole barns (non-engineered version of post frame buildings) are typically not designed to meet structural requirements of building codes. A great place to start is by visiting our website www.HansenPoleBuildings.com and navigating to upper right corner where it says SEARCH. Type in any subject you want information on and ENTER. There are roughly 3000 available articles on a myriad of post frame subjects.

Many of our potential clients find this to be helpful: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2021/02/a-shortlist-for-smooth-barndominium-sailing/

We have provided hundreds of our fully engineered post frame homes/barndominiums to our clients in South Carolina. They are legal in all 50 states (and we have provided buildings in every state).

As to affordability, Fully engineered post frame homes and barndominiums, modest tastes, DIY, budget roughly $75-85 per sft for conditioned spaces, $35 for all others. Does not include land, site prep, utilities, permits. If you hire it done, expect to pay two to three times as much.

We are not contractors, however we do have an extensive network of building erectors and General Contractors serving most areas.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Is it possible to place a barndominium on a crawlspace? MICHAEL in GUSTON

DEAR MICHAEL: Absolutely it is possible. Most common is to increase building eave height and incorporate a raised wood floor.

By using wet-set brackets, we can also attach to CMU blocks, poured concrete or ICFs. By excavating, another option is to incorporate our glulaminated columns into a Permanent Wood Foundation.

For extended reading, please see: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2019/03/slab-on-grade-or-crawl-space/

Post Brackets, Cross Bracing, and Pressure Treated Wood

This week the Pole Barn Guru tackles reader questions about a building set into a slope with use of post brackets, the possible use of “cross bracing” for wall girts, and understanding pressure treated wood.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I would like to build a 32′ x 48′ 2 story pole building where two of the sides of at least the lower floor are at least partially set into the hillside on the property. I envision the two sides set into the hill to be concrete foundation walls. Sort of a daylight basement. The lower floor would be a woodshop and the upper floor a two bedroom apartment. I am assuming a concrete foundation with Laminated “poles” mounted in brackets as opposed to buried. the “poles” on the two sides set into the hill would be shorter than on the other two sides. With the available space, the two story concept works better than having everything on a single story. Is this even possible? What would a ROM cost for a kit like that cost?

Thank you BILL in WEST RICHLAND

DEAR BILL: Your idea is totally possible. I have done it myself. In my case I had 12 feet of grade change across my building’s 40 foot width. I used ICFs full height on one sidewall and stepping down across rear endwall. Columns on these two walls were mounted using wet set brackets, other two walls had embedded columns. This process could also be used with poured concrete or block walls. We have also developed a system to use columns placed in a permanent wood foundation.

Attached photo is of my own building.

This is being shared with your Hansen Pole Buildings’ Designer who will be reaching out to you shortly.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: When using bookshelf girts is cross bracing used between posts or are the girts when blocked provide the support? WINSTON in MOULTON

DEAR WINSTON: No cross bracing is required when using bookshelf girts. Once installed (ideally blocked solid to columns at each end) and sheathing (OSB, plywood, structural panels or steel siding) is applied, your wall and girts are more than adequately supported and this assembly is fairly rigid.

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I read the article regarding treated wood. I am still a little puzzled as to what treating you would use for ground contact purposes, especially the upright poles. Do you have any other articles regarding this subject or have input you could email me? Much appreciated, thank you. KELLY in VICTOR

DEAR KELLY: Pressure preservative treated wood standards can be confusing even for lumber dealers, professional builders and building inspectors. For structural building columns, all end tags should have UC-4B marked on them. UC-4B is for “Heavy Duty” use. This American Wood Preservers Association infographic might prove helpful to understanding proper uses for pressure preservative treated wood: www.awpa.com/images/standards/ResidentialInfographic2020.pdf