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Solar Panels and Fire Fighting

We receive more and more requests from clients who want their pole building roofs designed to support the weight of solar panels.

Solar Powered Pole BarnWhile solar panels are a favorite of those who are trying to “exit the grid” and the “green” folks, they pose never before found threats to fire fighters.

Fire fighters may suffer electrical shocks from panels which cannot typically be shut off. Even when systems have shutoffs, any light may keep panels and their wires energized.

Gaining access to roofs gives firefighters advantages such as venting gases, and the panels get in the way.

Post frame buildings seem to attract more than a proportionate share of fires, from a myriad of reasons. Many have been constructed with little or no Code involvement – no plan checks or inspections, dangerously so in the case of electrical systems.

Adding in the complexities of roof top solar panels just increases the probability of a post frame building fire becoming a total.

Solar energy has grown rapidly over the past decade, primarily in California, Arizona and New Jersey. Risks to fire responders have prompted building codes and firefighter training, but implementation is spotty and often left to individual jurisdictions.

Experts warn firefighters might use less aggressive tactics in buildings with solar panels, especially in instances where the fire poses little risk to human life. If this indeed becomes the case – expect even few fires in pole buildings to result in some or all of the building being saved.

Among the risks are shocks from panel wires which might be sliced when firefighters cut into a roof. Those wires also could come into contact with metal roofing material, causing injuries far from the roof cut, according to studies conducted by Underwriters Laboratories.

Funded by the Department of Homeland Security, those experiments have shown the light emitted by fire equipment can generate enough electricity in the panels so as a firefighter who inadvertently touches an energized wire might not be able to let go, a phenomenon known as “lock on.”

Unable to access roofs, firefighters sometimes switch goals – from actively trying to save a building to preventing flames from spreading to neighboring properties – a practice known as defensive firefighting.

While it sounds as if I am totally against solar panels, my concern is the risks involved with the current technology. If there was a fool-proof automatic shutoff in case of fire or electrical malfunction, I’d be much more inclined to be a proponent.  Or how about some sort of “standard” shut off which is obvious and easy for fire-fighters (or others) to access?  If there is already one available, I’d love to hear more about it.

Considering solar panels on a pole building – weigh some of the possibilities of what would happen to the building in the event of fire. Do due diligence, use common sense for design and use and….be properly insured against losses.

Solar Panels & Shingles: Not a Marriage Made in Heaven

An increasing number of new pole building owners consider installing solar roofing panels in order to harness solar energy and generate electricity for their new buildings. The traditional approach was based on installing heavy crystalline solar panels on top of an asphalt shingle roof. Shingles are an oil based roofing system with a relatively short lifespan.

This approach has generally worked for a while. Roof penetrations, needed for the installation of solar panels mounting system made to an asphalt shingle roof, increased the likelihood of premature roof leaks down the road, and shortened the already-too-short lifespan of the asphalt shingle roof.

The main problem associated with general/conventional solar roofing systems often seen on some pole buildings around the country, is an asphalt shingle roof is likely to fail much sooner than the solar panels will.

Picture a scenario in which a building owner spends a large amount of money to install a new crystalline solar panel system on their new asphalt shingle roof. It is likely within just a few years the roof will fail, due to roof leaks caused in part by roof penetrations made during the solar system installation.

When such a situation occurs, the building owners will be faced not only with earlier than expected re-roofing expenses, but also with having to pay for a complete removal of solar panels, and for their re-installation.

Further complicating this situation is re-roofing, and solar panel dismantling and reinstalling of solar panels MUST be coordinated and simultaneously performed by both the roofer and the solar panel installer.

The roofer, only paid for the installation of a new roof, will 99% of the time make solar panel dismantling and reinstallation errors which could cause irreparable damage to solar panels.

Bear in mind any roofing warranty most of the time will not cover damages to the solar equipment, let alone the possible short-circuit of the solar wiring situations.

The additional solar panel dismantling and reinstallation cost associated with these procedures is just as high as the expected cost of a new roof itself.

Consider this situation: an apprentice electrician needs four years or more of schooling and work experience. This is like an undergraduate degree. Master electrician, another 4 years. Electricians usually charge $75-100 per man-hour and it takes two electricians and two days – one to remove the panels, and another to put them back on.

2 guys * $75 * 8 hrs. * 2 days = $2400, plus any possible parts and supplies which may be required. It may not cost this much in materials and labor to re-shingle a 30’ x 40’ pole building!

Shingle roofing manufacturers are pursing the solar roofing market. Their latest product, a solar shingle roofing system, uses thin-film solar panel technology in combination with conventional asphalt shingles. However, the proponents of green and environmentally friendly building technologies are likely to be disappointed, because the asphalt shingle underneath the solar panel contains petroleum, and is not going to last as long as a far better roofing choice – steel. Come back tomorrow and I’ll discuss the advantages of using steel roofing with solar panels.