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Utility Poles, an Estimated Cost, and Floor Plans for a Kit

This week readers “Ask the Guru” about the use of utility poles for post frame “equipment cover,” an Estimated Cost for a 50X80X16 pole barn, and if our kits come with Floor Plans.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I have 3 hi-cube 40′ shipping containers configured in a “U” shape ( open on one end). These are located near Amarillo in the Texas panhandle. I would like to build a open span 40′ x 40′ x 14′ height pole barn “equipment cover” over the center of these shipping containers. These shipping containers have doors on one end and 4 doors down one side. The containers that form the sides of the “U” configuration will have their sides with 4 doors orientated so pointing to the inside of the “U” ( under cover ). I am planning on using six utility poles for columns (6′ deep), headers across the columns to support 40′ wood trusses & wood purlins to attach R-panel 26 gauge roofing panels to. The sides will be finished with R-panel siding to the top of the shipping containers. What recommendations would you have for my design or would you recommend I-beam rafters instead of trusses? SCOTT in AMARILLO

DEAR SCOTT: I would strongly recommend against use of utility poles (read more here: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2012/11/used-utility-poles/).

My recommendation would be to invest in a fully engineered building using properly pressure preservative treated glulaminated columns, placed every 10 feet, to avoid your door openings. https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2024/11/new-hansen-pole-building-roof-supporting-columns/

Prefabricated wood roof trusses should be directly aligned with eave side columns https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2024/11/new-hansen-pole-buildings-prefabricated-roof-trusses/

29 gauge steel will likely do everything you need it to do https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2012/01/steel-thickness/

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I’m just wondering an Estimated Cost for a 50X80X16 pole barn just wondering if it’s in my budget is it 15-20 grand? 30-50 grand? 60-100 grand? Thanks BOB in ENUMCLAW

DEAR BOB: Thank you for your interest in a new Hansen Pole Building.

Hansen Pole Buildings has provided over 1000 affordable, fully engineered, custom designed post frame buildings to our clients in Washington. You are likely to find keeping with multiples of 12 feet in width and length will result in cost savings (e.g. 48′ x 84′ as an example). For an idea of potential investment please visit https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/pole-barn-prices/ This should also prove helpful reading: https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2024/04/things-hansen-pole-buildings-does-better-than-any-other-post-frame-building-provider/

 

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: I am looking at a few of your barndo kits – my main question is do they come with floor plans? I don’t see the floor plan on the purchase page or are these just shells? LIZ in BARK RIVER

DEAR LIZ: We have an in-house team of floor plans specialists who can work with you to craft an ideal dream floor plan to best meet your family’s needs and budget. For more information, please visit: http://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/post-frame-floor-plans/

 

 

 

 

Dear Pole Barn Guru: Do You Have House Floor Plans?

Welcome to Ask the Pole Barn Guru – where you can ask questions about building topics, with answers posted on Mondays.  With many questions to answer, please be patient to watch for yours to come up on a future Monday segment.  If you want a quick answer, please be sure to answer with a “reply-able” email address.

Email all questions to: PoleBarnGuru@HansenPoleBuildings.com

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Could you send me some house floor plans that you have made or that you have? We just are not very good at coming up with the sizes. We have looked at a double wide house that we really like but we are not sure if thats something we could find and some how send to you. BAFFLED

DEAR BAFFLED: As we provide the structural building shells, and not any non-structural interior walls, we have no “house floor plans”. A good way to come up with sizes is to take a tape measure to the rooms in the house or apartment you live in now. Same with the double wide you liked – go measure the rooms. Do paper cutouts of different pieces of furniture (to scale) and place them on rooms drawn to scale. There are also numerous FREE room planning tools on the net. One source is: https://freshome.com/2010/08/18/10-best-free-online-virtual-room-programs-and-tools/

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Where do I place screws for exposed fastener applications? SCREWED IN SCHENECTADY.

DEAR SCREWED: A properly installed screw will be down in the flat of the panel. (Some companies errantly install them on the high part of the ribs).  At this location the steel panel has solid wood right below and good compression on the washer can be obtained. With thermal movement in the panel, the screw will be put into shear, not bending, and the hole thru the steel panel will slightly elongate.

When we tested full sized roofs, under controlled laboratory situations, we found repeatedly cycling horizontal loads (which simulated wind) into the roof system, also caused the holes in the steel panels to elongate, when using the industry standard #9 or #10 diameter screws. The mechanical engineer, Merle Townsend, who did our testing, designed the “Diaphragm screw” as a result of this actual testing.

As long as this slot does not exceed the diameter of the washer, the hole will remain sealed. In order to prevent undue slotting, only “Diaphragm screws” should be used to attach through screwed steel roofs.

Additionally, the diaphragm shear capacity and shear stiffness is based on the screws being installed in the flat of the panel. If screws are installed in the top of the rib, the diaphragm would be much more flexible and would not be as strong.

DEAR POLE BARN GURU: Do you sell metal trusses?  If not, can you recommend someone?  We live in Hastings MN. HARRIED IN HASTINGS

DEAR HARRIED: We do not. We’d need to know more about how you anticipate using them, to be able to give you a better idea. Unless you are looking at a tremendously huge span (over 100′) steel trusses are generally not cost effective.

For relatively small span residential and commercial applications, where trusses will be placed every two feet, some metal connector plated wood truss fabricators are also offering light gauge steel trusses.

In some parts of the country (especially Arkansas and Alabama) there are a plethora of folks who manufacture welded up steel trusses made from angle iron and rebar. There may be some questions as to the engineering and integrity of these products, as most of them are utilized in buildings which do not require building permits.