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How to Build a Sliding Door – Part III

Part III of three in how to build a Sliding Door(Part I posted July 13 and Part II July 14):

Door Pull

From experience, for opening ease, it is best mounted vertically onto door “end” – on a Vertical Side Rail face. If one-piece sliding doors, skip next section.

Bi-Parting Doors

With a few exceptions (Track to Track Board, Jamb Mount Stop and Side Mounted Jamb latch, mentioned earlier), bi-parting doors install same as single doors.

Door Track

Track for bi-parting doors installs with a 24” trackless space (48” space if doors are wider than 10’) at the center of the track board.

Astragal

Attach to one of the verticals where the two doors meet with one pantek screw for each 2’ of vertical height. See Figure 27-12.

Figure 27-12

Figure 27-12

Center Mounted Snugger

Select a horizontal door member which is at a convenient height and drill one (1) 17/32” diameter hole as shown. Next drill one (1) 9/32” diameter hole in vertical door member.

Slip larger link on chain end over snugger rod and insert snugger rod into 17/32” hole in horizontal door member.

Figure 27-13

Figure 27-13

Secure opposite snugger rod end to vertical member using one (1) 1/4” fastener and nut.  See Figure 27-13

 

Install snugger rod second half in other door, following same procedure except no chain link is put on rod. Attach “S” hook to chain.

To latch the two doors together, merely hook “S” hook onto snugger rod as shown. The more door rattles, the tighter latch becomes.

After making certain “S” hook is in proper link (latched chain will be about 6” from horizontal member top), close “S” hook slightly so it will stays attached to chain.   See Figure 27-13.

Center Door Guide

Center guide may be mounted to a pressure treated post cutoff piece or embedded in concrete. Center guide mounting fasteners are NOT included.

Locate guide at door opening center point. Sliding door bottom laterals will hook into center guide.  See Figure 27-14.

Figure 27-14

Figure 27-14

 

For proper closure, each bottom horizontal is to be cut or notched 1/16” short for the center verticals to compensate for center stop thickness.

 

Place center guide and fasten with 6 nails or 4 3/8” lag bolts.

See Figure 27-15

Figure 27-15

Figure 27-15

 

After guide is in place, additional adjustment is possible through vertical adjustment on door trolleys. This adjustment is used after center guide is rigidly in place.

This concludes our three part series on sliding door construction.

A Sliding Door Experience

We had a recent inquiry from a client who needed a new pole building for farm equipment storage. He has a windrower and several balers and trailers to put in the building. His initial request was for a 30’ x 40’ building, with a single sloping roof and a 14 foot eave height. For doors he wanted four 20 foot wide by 14 foot tall sliding doors.

Sliding DoorOther than the requested eave height not being adequate (sliding doors DO need something to mount to), two 20 foot wide doors could have been mounted on each of the 40 foot long walls. I say ‘could’ because this would most likely not work out to be the most practical of design solutions. 20 foot width sliding doors are truly big doors and in this configuration, only one door on a wall could be opened at a time.

Hansen Pole Buildings’ Designer Doug was able to show the client the benefits (as well as tremendous cost savings) of a gabled roof, as opposed to the single sloping roof. The client determined his door needs could be met with one sliding door each, on the same sidewall, of 16 foot and 18 foot widths. These would still need to bi-pass each other on double tracks.

At this juncture, the client asked, I am going to need some additional information about the sliding doors. Specifically I need to see how they are going to work, and what kind of track/rollers they will have. Can you send me something detailing this?”

Doug sent to the client the chapters from the Hansen Pole Buildings’ Construction Manual

https://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/blog/2011/07/how-often-and-why-building-technical-support/

which pertained to the components and assembly instructions for sliding doors.

The reply, “I appreciate your response and the door hardware details. This cleared up a few questions.

I still do not see how the sliding doors are going to work in relationship to the building itself. I will need to have the post layouts specified on the quote, so that I understand where the posts are in relationship with the doors. I do not want to get a building I cannot use for my purposes. Typically posts are set at 10 foot centers, but since my doors will be most of the side wall, I just do not see how this is going to be accomplished without posts in the middle of my openings. I also do not see how with 36 foot of opening capability, on a 40 foot building where the doors are going to go when open. Any support you could lend in clearing up this important detail will be greatly appreciated.”

Now a brand new issue has been raised – the client was anticipating somehow having an opening of up to 36 feet in width on one 40’ sidewall…..and just now realized the doors had nowhere to slide to!

With sliding doors, they do need a ‘place to park’ so it was back to the drawing board with some other options. By turning the roofline 90 degrees, the sliding doors could be located in the peaked endwall – where a roof truss can carry the load without the need for large structural headers.

For bi-parting doors – they “park” either over the other door location (in front of the other doors), or often one over the other on an adjacent wall. Again, the determinant is available wall space

The best door opening choices are to place a 20 foot wide split (bi-parting) door in the center of the end. This would be the most economical as well as most secure solution – providing the client can work with a 20 foot wide opening.

The other choice, is to mount double tracks on the endwall, and provide a 26 foot wide hole. Doors would be a seven foot wide door on the inside track, then two six foot wide doors on the outer track, and one more seven foot door. One six foot and one seven foot door would slide in each direction.

We will see where this saga leads.